In this reflective episode of Podcasts by Dr. Kirk Adams, Dr. Adams sits down with Laura Bratton, a professional speaker, author, and coach who lost her sight to an unnamed rod and cone dystrophy diagnosed at age nine and was totally blind by the end of high school. Bratton walks through her academic path from an undergraduate degree in psychology at Arizona State to a Master of Divinity at Princeton, where she was the program’s first blind student and had to build her own self-advocacy playbook around accessible textbooks, testing accommodations, and screen reader workflows. Now an ordained United Methodist pastor, she frames her work around change management and the twin resources she calls grit and gratitude, the subject of her book Harnessing Courage: Overcoming Adversity Through Grit and Gratitude.
The conversation digs into how those two resources function in practice. Bratton defines grit not as Southern “suck it up” stoicism but as acknowledging hard feelings and choosing to move forward anyway, and she defines gratitude as a daily mindset practice, naming three specific things from the day, that reframes perspective without papering over pain. She and Adams trade notes on the intertwined nature of psychological, spiritual, and physical healing, the role of mindfulness, breath work, and body scans in managing anxiety, and the everyday gratitude blind professionals feel for accessible technology, screen readers, and Braille materials. Bratton speaks primarily to associations and corporations navigating organizational change, recently to a real estate association and an athletic directors’ group, and points listeners to LauraBratton.com for her book, speaking, and coaching work.
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Podcast Commentator: Welcome to podcasts by Doctor Kirk Adams, where we bring you powerful conversations with leading voices in disability rights, employment and inclusion. Our guests share their expertise, experiences and strategies to inspire action and create a more inclusive world. If you’re passionate about social justice or want to make a difference, you’re in the right place. Let’s dive in with your host, Doctor Kirk Adams.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Welcome, everyone to another episode of podcast by Doctor Kirk Adams. And I am that Doctor Kirk Adams talking to you from my home office in Seattle, Washington. And today I have a super interesting guest, Laura Bratton. Laura is a professional speaker and author, and we met, of course, via LinkedIn, but I will, I will not steal her thunder. I will let her tell you about her fascinating journey through life in a few moments. If you could just say, hi, Laura.
Laura Bratton: Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. I’m excited to be here.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Absolutely. So for those of you who don’t know me, I am a blind person. Have been since age five when my retinas detached. I went to the Oregon State School for the blind. First, second, third grade, learned my Braille, my cane travel, my typing, my independence, my sense of agency and internal locus of control, and all those things that set me up for successfully sinking and swimming through public school, starting in fourth grade, and then on through college and graduate school and getting my doctorate in leadership and change and all those things. I do live in Seattle, married for 40 years to my lovely college sweetheart. Two grown children, two amazing grandchildren. And I am the Executive director of the Institute for Sustainable Diversity and Inclusion here in Seattle. And also managing director of my consulting practice, Innovative Impact, LLC. And I go through life pursuing fun, innovative, high impact projects that I think will accelerate inclusion of people with disabilities in all aspects of living and thriving. And I like to, I like to do projects with people I like and admire. And Laura, Laura is one of those. So I would just love to hand you the talking stick, Laura, and ask you to talk about where have you been and where are you now and where are you going? And I as host, I’ll reserve the right to pop in with random questions as they occur to me. So the floor is yours.
Laura Bratton: Absolutely. So I want to talk about what I do professionally, because that connects both the professional and the personal experience. So professionally, I’m a speaker, author, coach. And when I speak on is change management, how do we as companies, as organizations? And then even more so as individuals, how do we navigate through change? And what I wrote my book on, what I coach on, and then specifically what I speak on within that realm of change management, navigating through change is how do we use the resources of grit and how do we use the resources of gratitude to navigate through change so that we don’t just experience change or shut down with fear or just shut down being overwhelmed. But we are able to experience that change and keep going and reach our goals, reach our potentials, use our gifts, have the purpose that we are in the world. And the reason that I speak on that and wrote my book on that and coach on that topic is because of my life experience. So at the age of nine, I was diagnosed with extremely rare eye condition, like continue pretty much normal, about the same until teenage years.
Dr. Kirk Adams: And then and name that condition.
Laura Bratton: It does not have a name.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Oh, wow. Okay. That’s rare.
Laura Bratton: I’m in my 40s now and we’re still doing gene therapy. Gene therapy, gene testing. So it does not have a name.
Dr. Kirk Adams: So how how did it manifest? I mean, lots of people listen to this podcast are blind or visually impaired or, or are interested in dynamics around visual impairment. So how.
Laura Bratton: Does it.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Manifest? Manifest.
Laura Bratton: It manifested by my parents. It was just a slight change. So slight. So much so that as in me as a nine year old, I wasn’t aware of the changes. My parents noticed very minor changes like holding the book a little bit closer to my face, or I would sit to the in the chair closest to the TV, rather than just anywhere in the den. Again, they weren’t major drought drastic changes. So my parents just figured, okay, we’ll go to the doctor, get her eyes checked. You know, maybe she’s near-sighted. Far side needs a cute pair of pink glasses and we’ll be on our merry way. That’s what my parents assumed. That wasn’t the reality at that visit. My. My eyes were dilated.
Laura Bratton: The doctor took one look at me and said, there’s something major going on with her retinas. We’ve got to figure out what’s going on. So that led to a summer of doctor’s appointments. I ended up at Emory University in Atlanta with a pediatric retina specialist. And that’s where she didn’t give me a formal diagnosis because they’re still not a formal diagnosis. But she could confirm, yes, the cells of your retina are dying. So it’s a rod and cone dystrophy.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay. Okay.
Laura Bratton: So I lost my central first and then still had my peripheral.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay. And where are you at now?
Laura Bratton: Totally blind. Just very limited light perception.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay. Well, I spent my share. Share. I spent a good share of my childhood with pediatric retinal specialists as well.
Laura Bratton: So you understand.
Dr. Kirk Adams: We have that in common. My year was at Emory. Mine was at the University of Oregon Medical School in Portland.
Laura Bratton: Okay. Okay, so you understand lots of blood work, right?
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And lots of lots of students looking into your eyes.
Laura Bratton: Oh my God. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Oh, that is so true. That is 100% true.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Another story for another day, but okay.
Laura Bratton: No, that’s a whole nother podcast.
Dr. Kirk Adams: So I just wanted to establish. So basically, you’re a totally blind person at this point in your life.
Laura Bratton: Oh, yeah. Not basically I am.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay. Well, I, I I digressed you off of your your path, but well, no.
Laura Bratton: It was perfect. Perfectly fits because I through the high school, I didn’t just wake up one day and have no vision. It was a gradual process. Yet it was quick because by the end of high school, I was totally blind. So I would lose a lot of vision and there were plateaued for about a year, and then I’ll lose a lot more vision and then plateau for a while. So again, by the end of high school, I was totally blind and have what I have now just light perception. So during that transition of obviously going from fully sighted in a sighted world to now being blind in a sighted world, I had to figure out how to adapt. I had to figure out how to adjust, how do I move forward and not be shut down with anxiety, not be overwhelmed by the both the present and the future. So that’s where over time, clearly it wasn’t overnight, but over time, I learned the balance of grit and the balance of gratitude. And so that’s why I speak on and wrote my book on and coach on. How do we navigate through change? Because I, I lived through it and still, as you can relate, lives as a person without sight in the sight of the world. Yes. I’m adapted. Yes, I’m adjusted. And yet there’s still those daily frustrations aggravations where we need those resources. So that’s the reason I speak and do what I do professionally is because of my personal life experience.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Well, tell us about your book.
Laura Bratton: So Harnessing Courage. First, I want to talk about the title. The title just makes me smile. And I absolutely love the title. And I worked with a publisher very closely on naming specifically that. So in between those few months in between high school and college, I got my first guide dog. So my first guide dog through college, grad school, first few years of profession. And then I got my second guide dog. I had her for also about 11 or 12 years, and then she died about two years ago. So in respect and just with gratitude for those two guide dogs and the gift that they were to me, that’s why I named it harness. And so the harness, obviously, I know, you know, but just for anyone listening, the harness is the leather strap that goes around the dog that then the blind person holds the handle. So it took a lot of courage for me to hold that harness and move forward. And also for that dog, they had to trust me, depend on me to take care of them as they were my eyes. So just out of respect for the gift they were to me, I named it Harness and Courage because throughout the book I talk about every day, we have to harness that courage as we navigate through change.
Laura Bratton: So that’s why I wrote it. So the titles Harness and Courage. The subtitle is Overcoming Adversity Through Grit and Gratitude. And the purpose of the book is not to be a one, two, three felt. Read this and in 30 days you will be happy. Or the 30 days you know you will have a joyful life forevermore. The point of the book is to be a resource, to be a resource, to say, this was my personal experience of going through and becoming blind. Here are the resources I found to navigate through. How can you also apply the grit and also apply the gratitude as you go through your adversity? So it’s not just for people who are blind, it’s for any of us going through adversity, going through loss. On how do we navigate through? And so again, it’s not a self-help. It’s a resource on how can you apply these. So like I wrote a chapter on accepting our new normal. I wrote a chapter on becoming comfortable in our own skin. So again, that applies to any of us going through loss, going through trauma, going through adversity. So that’s, that’s the point and the goal of the book.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah, I, I do want to ask you about your academic career because it is also really unique. I learned about when we had our first conversation.
Laura Bratton: So I went to undergrad at Arizona State and I majored in psychology. And then I went to grad school at Princeton and got a divinity. Oh, I said that backwards. A master’s in divinity. And the reason, the purpose for that. And now I’m an ordained pastor in the ordained clergy in the United Methodist Church. And the reason for that is, as I went through my own personal journey of adapting and adjusting while continuing to move forward, it was evident through me, to me, through my lived experience. Healing was not just psychological. Healing was not just spiritual healing was that mind, body, spirit, connection all intertwined. So getting my undergrad in psychology was great and wonderful, yet I knew I wanted to look at it holistically. How does the spiritual theological play in with our physical healing, with the emotional healing, with the psychological healing? So that was.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Could you could you talk a little bit about that? How do you how do you how do you see that? What is the shape?
Laura Bratton: So what I mean by that is, again, from my personal experience, I did just not Adapt and heal. And what I mean by healing is regaining my confidence, regaining that, okay, I’m comfortable in my own skin. I’m comfortable who I am as a person who’s blind in a sighted world. My healing was not just psychological. I didn’t just go to a therapist and meet with a therapist once a week and say, ta da, I’m healed. Life is good. I’m adapting, I’m adjusted. But yet it wasn’t just all spiritual. It wasn’t just, okay, I have a spiritual practice. I have a spiritual faith. That’s my anchor. I move on or it wasn’t just, okay, let me focus on exercising. Let me focus on mindfulness. Let me focus on eating healthy. And that’s how I heal. It was all of those connected. It was learning mindfulness practices. It was having that workout routine. It was having those learning those healthy sleep patterns. It was having that gratitude practice, leaning on those spiritual mentors and guides. It was connecting and meeting with a therapist. So that’s what I mean. It wasn’t just one resource. It was multiple resources connecting all intertwined that you really can’t separate them. So that’s what I found in my own experience. And then working with so many other people in different types of loss.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Curious about how do you practice gratitude? Just like the, the actual tactics, the mechanics of what, what do you do personally?
Laura Bratton: So I have to share how gratitude originally started for me. And then that’ll make it clear why I practice what I practice today.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay, okay.
Laura Bratton: So I want to make it clear I did not wake up one day and say, oh geez, this life is great. I love being a teenager who all of a sudden different, you know, like no longer normal. This is wonderful. I’m so thankful to have to learn Braille. So I didn’t just wake up and instantly become grateful. The way that gratitude came to me was towards the end of high school, I had a mentor say to me, Laura, I want you to start developing a mindset of gratitude. Well, let me put it in context. I grew up in the Deep South, in the southeast of the United States. So what do you do? You smile and nod and say thank you. Right? Like you don’t challenge. And this is like late 90s. So you don’t challenge you don’t you just smile and nod and act happy all the time and say, yes, ma’am. So I did that in my head. I’m thinking, oh, wow, you are a terrible mentor. Like, I’m depressed, I’m anxious, I’m grieving. I don’t have anything to be grateful for. So only in my stubbornness did I say, okay, I’m going to prove to her I have nothing to be grateful for. I’m going to try this, but it’s only out of stubbornness that I can say to her, by the way, lady who doesn’t need to be mentoring teenagers, I have nothing to be grateful for. So part of what or mainly what she said to me was to start this practice. I want you to think about every day. At the end of the day, three people, places, situations from the day that you’re grateful for.
Laura Bratton: So it’s not just your general family food shelter. It’s very specific from that day. Yeah. So again, that’s why I’m the whole thing. I’m like, oh my gosh, this is ridiculous. This is crazy. I’m anxious, depressed. Absolutely not. The one day became a week. The week became a month. And what I slowly realized over time was she was not saying. Be grateful for the blindness. Be grateful in everything. For everything. All the time. Walk around being happy, smiley, joyful, blah blah. She was teaching me to develop a mindset that allows me to be grateful for what I have in the midst of life, in the good, in the bad, in the mundane, in it all. That’s what she meant by a practice of gratitude. So it started for me by saying, no, I’m not grateful for having these challenges and difficulties and adversity in life, but I am grateful for is technology that makes the computer accessible so I can learn and use jaws, and now use VoiceOver so that the computer is accessible. No, I’m not grateful for this life, but what I am grateful for is that older brother who just continue to treat me like that annoying little sister. Vision or no vision, right? Like, yeah, I’m. I’m in. God, you know, he’s in college. I’m in high school. He still thinks I’m annoying. He was always in my sight, right? I’m still that sister that drives me crazy. I was so grateful for that normalcy.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah.
Laura Bratton: So that was how I reframed and changed that perspective.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Right.
Laura Bratton: On being grateful.
Dr. Kirk Adams: And I’m guessing that you talked about how everything’s intertwined and you can’t pull these threads separately out of, out of your, your healing, which talked about regaining your confidence. But I’m guessing the gratitude practice and mindfulness practice must be closely intertwined.
Laura Bratton: Absolutely.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Pay as you pay attention to the present, the present, now moment, as the Dao says.
Laura Bratton: Right? So mindfulness told me thoughts or thoughts, they come and go. Thoughts are not absolute facts. So before I learned about mindfulness and before I took a class in mindfulness, I thought, you know, when I have an anxious thought, oh gosh, I’m going to be anxious for now forever, I’m going down this deep dark hole. What mindfulness and the practice of mindfulness taught me was, okay, I have that thought that I’m anxious. That’s just a thought. I get to decide what do I do with that thought? And the other major gift that mindfulness gave me was focusing on my breath. I realized that as I became anxious, my breath was shallow, and that gave me the opportunity to realize, oh, there goes my shallow breath. I need to turn towards my breath and think about breathing from my diaphragm, not the short, shallow breaths and what mindfulness also told me. Was the gift of the body scan. Noticing. Where am I holding tension in my body? Because again, when I was anxious, I didn’t realize I was tensing, my shoulders tensing, my stomach tensing my feet. I didn’t realize that. But once I became aware of how my body is reacting, I could relax my shoulders, release my feet, release my hands, you know? So my body was relaxed. So yeah, you said it perfectly. They’re so intertwined, you can’t pull out those threads.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah.
Laura Bratton: So the, the gift I want to give to everyone on gratitude is start your gratitude practice by thinking, at the end of the day, what you’re grateful for. Even if you’re like me and listening and saying, you are weird, I have nothing right before in my life. I’m not going to do it. Be stubborn. Right? Like do what I was doing, prove me wrong, and try to think of things you’re grateful for. Three is just a number that our. Our. It’s easy for our brain to connect with. It could be one. It could be ten. If it’s two or if it’s seven, that’s okay. The point is not the number. The point is just that you start to get in the habit of thinking about what you’re grateful for.
Dr. Kirk Adams: So so this morning, the three things I wrote down, three things I am especially grateful for today. Rachel coming home. Our daughter has a ten hour layover in Seattle. She’s trying to LA from LA to Miami through Seattle to land at ten tonight and leave at eight tomorrow morning. She’ll be here. And she she requested split pea soup, so my wife’s making split pea soup. So I wrote Rachel Coming home, Braille books because I got some Braille books on the porch yesterday from library and our tax return. Amy. So those are my three from yesterday. Laura.
Laura Bratton: That is awesome. That is great.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah. So do you. You do you use terms like breath work and body work. Can you talk about the body scan and breathing?
Laura Bratton: Are those absolutely 100% 100%.
Dr. Kirk Adams: So I was thinking about grit, grit and gratitude and how they work together and reinforce each other. And it reminded me of a, I honestly can’t say which of the zillion books I read during my, my, my PhD in Leadership and Change program. But I was talking about transformational change and the analogy was concrete and rainbows. You know, you need, you need rainbows to maintain the vision and the bigger picture and the spiritual and the light. But then you need the concrete because you need to really build, build. Yes, some something tangible. So. Oh, I.
Laura Bratton: Love that image.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah. When you said grit and gratitude, it made me think of concrete.
Laura Bratton: Oh, I love rainbows.
Dr. Kirk Adams: As, you know, two, two dynamics that work together. So would love to hear a little bit more about your thoughts on how grit gratitude worked together.
Laura Bratton: And then can I use that image? I’ll give you credit.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah, well, I took it from someone else and I can’t attribute it, but I should look it up anyway. We’d love to hear your thoughts on how grit and gratitude reinforce one another and work together.
Laura Bratton: Yeah, that’s a perfect analogy because we need them both and sometimes one more than the other. And yet. But it can’t be all one or the other. So let me explain how I define grit. So growing up in the well, my context was growing up in the South. So I’m just speaking from my context. Grit was suck it up, get over it. Don’t acknowledge your pain. Certainly don’t show others your pain and just move on. How I’ve learned to define grit is Acknowledging and validating our feelings and still choosing to move forward. So when we have those sadness, anger, grief, tears, it’s not jumping over it and saying, stop, stop, get over it. It’s saying, feel that. Acknowledge that as your real lived experience. Then choose to have the chassis, the shrink to move forward. So again, a real world example for me, it’s not okay when I’m feeling anxious, stopping, or running my anxiety for the rest of the day. It’s okay. I’m feeling anxious. Let me acknowledge that and still choose to send that email, make that phone call, even though it makes us right? Like you, you still just do the hard thing. So it takes tenacity and determination and courage to do that. Yet as the concrete. Yet with that, the gift of gratitude is that balance because it acknowledges, okay, in my anxiety, I’m feeling really, really anxious about the situation, and I’m thankful I can get through this because blah, blah, blah. So let me give you a real. That sounds good and great, but let me give you a real tangible example. When I’m feeling anxious about a situation, or let’s just say specifically an email I have to send, I grit looks like acknowledging that anxiety.
Laura Bratton: Gratitude looks like saying, okay, I’m still anxious, even though I’m not acknowledging my anxiety yet. I’m grateful I have the technology that allows me to send this email. And so I’m going to choose in the email even though I’m still anxious. So the gratitude does not cover up. Needing the strength, needing the courage, needing the tenacity. What it does is gives us perspective.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay. That’s great. And that’s you, you elaborate on that in your book?
Laura Bratton: Yes, absolutely.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Well, let’s let’s talk about speaking. I know you’re a speaker and you you enjoy speaking and you are a high impact speaker. So would would love to just get a little taste of the types of things you talk about and who, who are your ideal audiences, who you most resonate with?
Laura Bratton: So who I speak to are most is associations. I also speak a lot to corporations. And specifically I work with each organization on what is the change that they’re going through. From two perspectives. And then I’ll give you a real world example of just recently. So Sometimes I speak to organizations and I’m empowering the leaders to be the grit and gratitude. For example, I recently spoke to a real estate association, and so I was empowering those brokers, those real estate agents to be the grit and gratitude as they work with their clients. And then other times, like a few weeks ago, I was speaking to an association of athletic directors, and I was also empowering them to have grit and gratitude as they go and work with their coaches, work with their athletes. So specifically with this association of athletic directors, the challenge they’re experiencing and facing is, is clearly as their athletes are social, you know, the pressures of social media and all the pressures of if you play baseball, you know, it’s assumed you’re going to the NBA or if you play baseball, you’re on the MLB, you know?
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah, yeah.
Laura Bratton: The intense pressure that our youth are under. These athletic directors have to be equipped with the resources to help them help their youth navigate through these new challenges, the changes that they’re constantly experiencing. Yeah. So it was my they were bringing me in. It was my goal to speak on how do you navigate through on a day to day basis? How do you apply grit and how do you apply gratitude to empower your youth? Yeah. So that’s, that’s just one specific example of how I tailor it to the individual needs of the organization. So the foundation is always the same. Navigating through change with the grit, with the gratitude. And yet it looks different for each organization on what their specific change is that they’re going through.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah. And I’m, I’m guessing the master’s in divinity program at Princeton had not had a lot of totally blind students in their program. So I, I’m very, very interested in hearing about your experience of in graduate school as a blind person. And I assume you got to practice a lot of grit and gratitude in, in that process.
Laura Bratton: So I was the first blind person to go through the program. So you’re right, they had not had many. They had not zero. Right. So yeah. Okay. So I want to talk about how the grit and gratitude applied there.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Yeah.
Laura Bratton: Being the first, they didn’t know what resources I needed. They didn’t know how to adapt. They didn’t know how to adjust. They didn’t know how to make this program accessible. What does she need? So what it taught me. And the gift that it gave me being the first, is it taught me how to advocate for myself. So it took deep grit to advocate and to learn. Hey professors, I need my textbooks in PDF document. This is why. Because I use the software on my computer to read all the documents. And also, I work. Once I have my textbooks in PDF, I would work with the professors on, you know, I need double time on my testing, right? Like I need my testing either in Braille or then most of the time I did, they would just email because again, there was no testing center because I was the first one. But, you know, to send to have my test in accessible word doc format. And here’s why I need double time, not so that I can use my notes and look up the notes and all that, but because of the time it takes using a screen reader. So again, just recently going blind, I didn’t know how to advocate for myself. So that Princeton gave me the opportunity to learn how to advocate for myself. How do I clearly communicate my needs and state? These are my needs. These are why my needs. And here’s how we’ll work together to do it, to accomplish this successfully. So that was a deep gift of learning that advocacy because I’d never had to do it before. I didn’t know, I didn’t know what I needed, right? Because I was sighted, so I didn’t know it. Right, right. But that it was extremely hard being the first, but yet it was a deep, deep gift because it taught me how to advocate.
Dr. Kirk Adams: That’s great.
Laura Bratton: And the other the other gift was they didn’t give me any like, oh, sweetie, we’ll grade you less. Not as hard. Less rigorous on this paper. This exam. Because you’re blind. Sweet girl. You know, like you’ll just pass. They still, you know, grading my papers and tests just as hard.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Which expectations?
Laura Bratton: Exactly. Which was also a deep gift. Yes, because it taught me. You’re still you. You are. Can I use this blindness as a crutch or as a victim card or as a path card? Yeah. Like you’re still the same standards as every other student. So it, it was a great gift to me being the first on so many levels. Yeah, that could be a whole nother episode.
Dr. Kirk Adams: And then I can remember, I remember being very grateful when I was, I started my PhD program in 2010 when I could actually find the article in electronic format. Oh yeah. Gateway. And I just read it with jaws without having to go through a bunch of steps. I always experienced immense gratitude.
Laura Bratton: Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100%.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Well, Laura, I’d love to just give you an opportunity to let people know how they can get in touch with you how they can find your book. How can people reach out if they would like to talk to you about coming to speak to their organization. You mentioned associations are particularly interesting to you. So how can people get in touch?
Laura Bratton: The best place is my website. https://LauraBratton.com has all the resources on the speaking the book, the coaching, connecting on LinkedIn, emailing me. It’s all it’s all there. That’s the best place to go.
Dr. Kirk Adams: Okay, well, I will say the same. You can find me at my website, which is https://DrKirkAdams.com, and sign up for my newsletter and follow me on social and reach out if you want to talk to me about any aspect of accelerating, accelerating inclusion of people with disabilities in our society, in any aspect of society, and working together to create conditions for people with various impairments to thrive in this world. So thank you, Laura, for being part of the podcast today, and look forward to the next episode of podcast by Doctor Kirk Adams.
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